Groceries

Greg Barbera
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how much do you average per week on groceries?

i feel like i'm always going to the f***ing store every other day for something. i have a habit of making a list (unlike the wife) and try to stick to it.

we are a family of four (me, wife, two growing boys ages 7, 4) and i'm just curious as to what people are spending. we average about $150 a week for the basic Sunday weekly shop and then maybe a good $40-50 mid-week for whatever wasn't picked up (kitty litter, toilet paper, BEER!)

anyway, just looking for ways to trim the fat so to speak.

we tried the buying-in-bulk thing but we don't have a foot locker freezer and a $7 chunk of cheddar gets funky by the end of it.

but the inner gourmand in me likes fresh, local, seasonal faire which can be pricey (and i try to get mileage out of dinners with leftovers - we grilled last weekend. i grilled some veggies and used them for veggie quesadillas for two days' lunch)

thoughts?



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Always There

My house is my second home, I really live at the store. There really are some weeks that I am there every day. The upside is that sometimes it provides the excuse, or motivation, to get out of the house with the kids. My youngest is still home full time, so I never go alone, and sometimes with all three. Proves to be an adventure quite often.

Oh, your original question: We are probably in a similar spending pattern. Some things I have found to help: We get our milk delivered from a local dairy, which is hormone free. Coupons get clipped to the list. Although SuperTarget is very convenient, shopping several stores can save some bucks between all the weekly sales. A friend just told me one of her secrets - she makes a concious effort to ONLY buy something she knows she will cook that week. It cuts down on waste, keeps her fridge uncluttered, and really helps with the fresh aspect.

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Meat

Check the flyers in the Sunday paper. One of the big stores always has a "loss leader" for a particular type of meat. Sometimes chicken, sometimes beef, whatever. But you can save a ton of money by buying it. Here is the catch: The loss leader is designed to get you in the door so that you will buy your other groceries there. Just stick to your normal best cost savings scenario for your other groceries. If you can't tell what the "big deal" of the week is, compare the price of meat between stores. You can still use the flyers for this most likely. The savings can often be several dollars per pound.

If you don't play this meat game, then remember that chicken is almost always the cheapest meat in general. Learn to love it and leave beef off the list.

Finally, consider preparing entrees ahead of time and freezing them. There are some great cookbooks out there specifically for this purpose. Put the final cooking directions on a label and stick it to the freezer bag. Then just pull a bag/box of veggies out of the freezer and cook them in the microwave. Buy a box of rice or the little boxes of cous cous for something extra.



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Grocery

We spend about $60/wk. at Trader Joes and $40/wk. at Kroger for our family of four (one baby). Sometimes more, and sometimes less.



Greg Barbera
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you are the man

what are you? a family of birds?

i guess i should stop buying $8 six packs.



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We grow our own...

& make our own beer.

Just go to the liquor store, then it doesn't count as groceries.

Since the wife loves to shop, we both go to multiple groceries stores and buy pretty much just what's on sale. Then we use coupons, my wife's the Coupon Queen. Just yesterday she came home all proud about how she found such and such on sale for a buck, and they had a Dollar off coupon on them to boot, so they were free. So proud of herself, & my lucky night!
When you have the kids with don't forget to go to the bakery first and ask for a cookie, they're always free for kids (around here anyways). Then you likely won't have to open stuff in the store and have it mostly eaten before you get in line to pay for it. All adds up to more beer money too!



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$200 to $300, but ...

We spend $200 to $300 a week for our family (Wife, four kids and myself). But $100 of this is for "Allimentum" which is a special baby formula for kids with allergies.



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$100

I buy as much seasonal/local as possible. I think the trick it to have plenty of staples (rice, beans, bread, etc.) as possible on hands at all times. That's what the bulk stores are good for.

Whenever we have my daughter, that jump by about $25 for all the things she likes. But me, the wife, and the boy get by quite comfortably on $100 a week.

I've gotten us by on a lot less. My trick to keeping to budget, take the calculator on my cell phone, enter the amount I'm looking to spend, and then subtract each item I intend to purchase rounded off to the nearest quarter. Easier to stay on budget if you're taking money away from how much you're looking to spend.

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Prices have really gone up . . .

over the last two to four months. I do the shopping and have struggled to keep the overall costs down as of late. We spend about $120 or so for a family of four (up from $90-ish). We do the Costco thing as well (chicken breasts, diapers, juice, storage stuff, cleaners, etc.) -- probably $100-$150 every three weeks or so. The sell a tasty zero calorie flavored vitamin water that I'm hooked on.

Harp is on sale ($10.99 a 12) at Harris Teeter. I will be purchasing some more tomorrow.

I like Harp.



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Costco Vitamin Water

Is nasty disgusting, offensive, and I think it gives you herpes.

I bought it once because it was 2.00 cheaper than the Glaceau vitamin water case, and the Zero-cal flavouring just made me want to drink regular old tap water.

I'm hooked on Glaceau Vitamin water, but at $1-1.60/bottle I just have to do tap water now except for after dinner.

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Qualifying

For those of you that posted your weekly expenditures: How often do you eat out, including lunches, fastfood, etc? Does your wife buy her lunch out?



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Wife eats at work

1 Dinner out per week
1-2 breakfasts out (on the weekends)
My lunch out 2-3 times per week

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TitanInBoston
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meal plans

Each thursday when we get the sales paper to the local grocery store, my wife and I sit down and look at what is on sale and then develop and meal plan for the entire week based on what it on sale that week. We try to keep meat and other expensive items to an absolute minnimum. We are not in the financial position to buy anything but generic, non-organic, hormone filled food--but we hope to change that when our careers get off the ground a bit. Anyway, we are ridiculously scrupulous about grocery expenses out of necessity. We spend about $80 -$85 a week on food for a family of four (one is a breast-fed baby). We eat out about twice a month but use a seperate "entertainment budget" for that.

This probably sounds crazy to most of you. And it is definately not fun. But it can be done if need be. And actually--despite the amount of planning it requires--we do manage to eat pretty good, well-balanced meals. Depending on what your income is, though, it may not be worth the work to you.



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Need more planing

If you have a close TJ, your are really lucky guys!! I'm missing them.

I usually go 2 times per week in a house of 3 heads.
On weekend we spend around $130 in "just for this week" shopping (this is not a joke)
Once per month, Costco for bulky items and fish (I found it cheaper and good quality).

About going out, well every weekend my stove gets a pause at least for one lunch, but we cut down movies (now we use Netflix). My wife buys her lunch at work.
I try to make a week plan and I try to buy only the things I would need during the week, but most of the time I decided what to cook just 10 minutes before I start to cook. So looking in the cabinets and cook whatever I found there, thats why there are always extra stuff there.

I'm really shock to read that a family of 4 do shopping of $130, I need to start planing our meals!!! (Help Please)

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Congratatio pro erudio et auxilium
Itux



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That's not crazy at all Titan

I do exactly the same thing, and I use Living Cookbook software to help generate grocery lists based on what's on sale at the different stores.

When I first started staying home (pre-baby) I cut our weekly grocery budget for 2 down to $50/week or less by going through every circular and generating separate lists for each store, and then shopping at 4 different stores every Monday. Now, if I get lazy, I can spend between $80-$140/week, not including the formula for the baby. I try not to get lazy too often because it just hurts too much.

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Titan and BackpackingDad:

That is awesome. We have been trying to do the same type of thing. We haven't been quite as successful as you guys, but we have made some gains. Keep up the great work.

And, to the rest of you, it may only look like 10 or 20 dollars a week, but sometimes it is more and it really starts to add up after a couple of weeks.

Here is the easiest way to start:
1. Stop eating out. No matter how hard this seems.
2. Shop the circulars, including drugstores, for your most expensive items.

LATER...
3. After you get into the habit of 1 and 2, start shopping the circulars for the rest of your items (if stores are far apart, you may need to consider gas),
4. Check previous threads on this site about coupons, etc. There are some great websites out there to help. Don't be so loyal to your "usual" brands. But, don't let the coupons suck you into buying something that you normally wouldn't need or something for which there is a cheaper alternative.
5. Start planning one or two meals ahead of time, and only buy what you need. Increase the number of meals as you go along.
6. Invest in a small chest freezer for the garage or your utility room. They are not that expensive, and you can "pay it off" over the course of a few weeks of grocery savings. Check Sears, Costco, your local appliance dent store and Craigslist for cheap ones.

Good Luck!



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Samples, please

You guys are so good at this, it's embarrassing -- for moms (just kidding).

No, I use Sam's (we don't have a Costco) for frozen fish and chicken, which has a good price, good flavor, good shelf-life. We don't use their paper products, since that ties up too much money in toilet paper, etc.

BUT the main thing we get out there is free samples (yeah!), and a break in routine. My kids think the samples are the end-all-be-all of existence, and I get to see what they like and don't like. (I stay away from the frozen prepared foods, mostly, from a health standpoint.)

This is my one main way to save money: cash only. If I can write a check or put it on plastic, I tend to think "I might use this later." If I stick with cash only, I force myself into a definite limit and put back those Ding Dongs. It works -- most of the time.

But, yes, Itux is right. I need to start planning better too. Maybe it's Midwestern thing.



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I plan my menus for bi monthly rotations

I might be a chef but I'm still a dad.
1.I write my menus to use the freshest ingredients.
2. Write a menu that is going to last two weeks from the 1st to the 15th then write a menu to last from the 15th to the 31st. Use them for two months and then change. You already know what your having. Be vague with your menu like
SUN pancakes, bacon and syrup with oj
Tuna salad on rye, LTO and low fat veggiechips
Chicken grilled, rice and broccoli
Mon Cheerios ( store brand ) 1% milk , 1/4 of a qt of the large yogurt
Turkey and swiss with reduced cal. mayo, LTO and 1/2 a melon
Steak with mashed pots. and mixed veg
Blah blah blah

3.If you look at the menu you can still use the coupons and the flyer
4.Store branded item are cheaper in price not flavor.
5.You didn't specify what kind of chicken or steak or tuna. Use sale items.
6. if you have the room use 10 for 10bucks deals
7. buy fish on Tuesdays. It's the freshest during the week. ( build a repore with the fish a meat dudes or dudets )
8.Bulk shopping is encouraged in this menu system.
9. your wife and kids will already know what they are eating tonight
10. Every 2 months write new menus and put stars near the items you liked in the previous menu and recycle them.
11. after the first year you'll have many items and just redo the whole year.
12. you can cook some items 1/2 to 3/4 and freeze them for future use.

Hope I helped

Chef Kev

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Costco Vitamin Water

"Costco Vitamin Water -- Is nasty disgusting, offensive, and I think it gives you herpes."

Too funny for me to respond to. It's not the best tasting stuff in the world . . . guess I like the taste of herpes.

Thanks for the laugh!



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Great Info

CiaAlumn92,
That's exactly what we need, I'll admit I'm not the best or very creative at planning a variety of meals, plus with working part-time, it's just difficult to find the time.

Would you mind sharing your menus, passing them along or posting in a topic?

Also, BackpackingDad, where can the Living Cookbook software be found?

Thanks much,
Joe



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I found it.

http://www.livingcookbook.com



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1000 pts

who will get there first?

jphillip?
chefkev?

could be any of you... so start commenting!



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Living Cookbook

JPhillip wins.

Were I to review Living Cookbook in a single sentence it would read like this:

"Upfront geeking out with recipes, ingredients, and grocery stores updates pays off with easy meal-planning and shopping later."

It's a timesuck when you first get it, and sometimes I don't like the navigation, some of the default options, and I hardly ever use the pantry-monitor feature or pricing feature. But I've been using it for 4 years now so it's just about second nature. There are probably many better programs out there by now.

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Chef.

It will definitely be Chef Kev. He comments on his own posts and being off point never stands in his way. In all fairness though, at least half of his posts make sense. ;}



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Thanks guys

Will check it out.



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Thanks JPhill

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But, of course, Chef.

You are welcome, oh great and most courteous one.

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Robbo08
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Beer $ and what the government says on food $

I really thought I was spending too much on food, and then I found out the USDA has some ideas on what you should be spending. Now, since it's the government, I'm sure it is totally accurate, 100% useful, and possibly an offense to deviate from it.
http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/USDAFoodCost-Home.htm

At least it told me I was in the ball park. I use Microsoft Money to track expenses, and I track everything that I buy at the grocery store as "Groceries", except for booze. That includes toilet paper, diapers, and charcoal, so not entirely accurate. During the holidays, with lots of family, I've hit $800 in a month, but usually it's a lot less.

As for booze: I track that seperately because it adds up when I always have a few beers, and the wife always has a glass of wine. Since I'm on the East Coast, I've taken to buying a lot of Yeungling -- it's more like real beer than Bud but costs about the same. One of the stores will usually run a special on green-bottle beer (Heinie/Beck's/etc) once a month, and then I usually splurge on some Sam when a new seasonal rolls out. I always shoot for less than $1 per bottle before taxes. Costco can have some really crazy good deals on beer and wine, too.



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Geography?

Does geography matter here? I used to live on the West Coast, and I can't tell if items are more expensive here because prices have gone up everywhere or its just more expensive to ship everything to Kansas City.

I'm amazed that some of you. It's my wife and I and our 18-month old, and we are struggling to get under $500/month. I can't believe some of you guys are feeding four mouths with $100/week.

We've gone to the cash system. We've started eating a lot more vegetarian meals, and that can cut out the meat costs altogether. (Although we do like fish, and there ain't much local wild salmon, shrimp, or Mahi Mahi here in flyover country.)

We just went to a cash system, where groceries, meals on the go, little snacks/treats like ice cream or coffee, dining out, and entertainment all come out of the same pot. That way if we save during the month we get a little splurge at the end. (Or, alternatively, we get to eat PBJ sandwiches the last few days.) ;-) IMHO, it doesn't really count if you reduce your grocery bill by spending a lot of money elsewhere. That's why there's not a separate alcohol budget for us. And cutting back on the alcohol purchases really does cut out a big chunk.

I walk to the grocery store, and I figure that's got to count for some savings in gas and maintenance. But I guess I'd better stop throwing away those ad circulars. I find that Costco is reliable in its pricing, but not necessarily the cheapest. Example: Boneless Skinless Chicken Breasts are 2.99/pound in the local Costco. Area grocery store prices fluctuate, but I can often find them cheaper, sometimes $1.99/pound.



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We live one mile from our

We live one mile from our grocery store. I am there at least twice a week for a total of about $75-$100. But we are also about 2 miles from Costco. So we use that place like a grocery store, too. All of our milk, eggs, cheese, bread and meat comes from Costco. Lot of fruit, too. Plus most of the cleaning supplies and household stuff. And the prescriptions and beer.

Now I am trying to remember what it is that we DO buy at the grocery store .

Mike S
Austin TX



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Buying in Bulk

We actually do the majority of our shopping at the beginning of the month. We make a list and stick to it. it is difficult at first but will get easier. We plan a menu for each week of what we are going to eat, and buy groceries to fit it. One thing that I would highly recommend is get all of you canned, dry, bottled, foods that will go with you recipes and buy in bulk. Get a freezer and stock it with a half a cow and hog. The one thing that we invested in was vacuum packer. You can take all of your meat, chicken, fish, pork and season them before freezing. And believe it or not they are as fresh as the day that you bought them.

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