I think something really happened to MileHi and CiaAlum "Chef" after they hit 1,000 points. They both held on to squeeze out a few last posts, but now they are gone! I am afraid for TickTock. Have any of you received communications from "The Other Side?"
The 1000-Point Black Hole

Maybe they were pulled into a parallel universe, where SAHDs are common and easily accepted?
-Will
gamingwithbaby.com | all your diapers are belong to us
my flickr


I got sucked in and i couldn't get out...
Hi Guys.. Did u miss me?
Will how are u doing?
Chef Kev
Please don't wishbone Daddy's new sun glassesl!!!!! is my newest thing I say to KGA.
JPhillip said it, therefor it is, Chef= C=Caring, H=Helpful, E=Excellent, F=Fubar

Stay away from the Hadron Collider, Chef and MileHi!!!
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skepticdad.wordpress.com



can only see as far as his next step.
Good points, sounds like you might have to fill in the blanks, if somethings missing/broken and you have some insight, get after it then.
I'm not totally quite sure what the site is for myself, just whatever it seems. Anyway, bravo on the spending time with kids comment, I'll second that also!


I don't blog and I don't have any other major projects that I try to work on while I am on duty. So, more time to post "mindless drivel" here.
But, about the "meaningless comments and replies:" These are critical to the second part of the purpose of this web site. Many at-home dads desperately need "Connection" and "Community." If it weren't for this site's mindless drivel, many of us would not have any at-home dad connection or community.
The threads deemed "worthy of reading" by some, probably fall into the other half of the site's purpose, "Information" and "Resources."
At-home Dads need all four parts. As I look at the list of recent thread topics to the right, I see a good distribution of them. I would proudly direct anyone to this site that wanted to see what being an At-home dad is all about.
But, maybe I should take a hard look at how much time I spend with my kids? I think I will stop posting here until I reach 1,100 points. ;)
Then again, I really don't have time for that. I am too busy spending time with them and helping to build the At-Home Dad Community.

Thank you JPhillip - this meaningless stuff is a life-saver. I can find parenting advice all over the place, but where else can you find other guys who can relate to the baby who won't go down for his nap because his teeth are coming in. I enjoy being able to come to one site and and find a recipe for dinner, learn how to deal with the stares and the "oh that's different" comments, and find out that Sam Adam's cherry wheat beer is terrible, in addition to practical parenting resources. Where else on earth can you get all these?
My little guy being only 8 months, still takes naps (TGFN - Thank God for Naps) That is my athomedad.org time.. I don't think I would have much spare time if it wasn't for the naps....

My kids have outgrown naps, but I steal a few minutes during the morning to sit down at the computer. And if I didn't come here to babble and blather, I would be standing out in the street, chatting up the retired neighbors.
And they always point and stare when I am out there in my underwear, early in the morning. This stank has a great upside.
Mike S
Austin TX


That's spot on what I was thinking last night, when I couldn't sleep because MileHi's comment made me feel punched in the gut.
Am I spending enough time raising my daughter? I don't know...I mean, I'm spending all of HER time raising her. Maybe I should dump all of my hobbies...maybe I, and everyone here, should use my inside-Dadvocate-voice at all times while on the site...maybe I should help convince everyone that they need to do less bonding with other athome dads and more showing off what athome dads do on their best days, in their best moments, when the camera is on them so that the world carries only that picture around with them (the equivalent of airbrushing the model to sell magazines full of ads for things no one needs)...
Maybe.....
But I couldn't write a response. Because that would have meant that I was on this site when I could have been doing something else...training for an At-Home Dad 10K or something.
And, I also remembered this XKCD:
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So I went to bed and tossed instead.
Wearing my DILF shirt and my new panties from Victoria's Secret.
http://backpackingdad.blogspot.com
Might say that MileHi was just trying to provoke the exact discussion that has started.
Doubt it. I'm on the side of JPhilip and the rest. I think the comments were uncalled for, and frankly, wrong. I'm as busy as anybody on this site with three young boys (oldest in K). I don't blog (except here), I don't work out of the house. I just spend the vast majority of my time taking care of my family. Don't I get to be included in my own family? Shouldn't I spend some time taking care of me? Yes, to both questions. In fact, any sane person would argue that it is critical. So here I am, taking care of me (DURING NAPTIME!!).
Really, if you think the site is a waste of your time, why did you bother spending the time to compose such a long post? Next time, just log off and go away.
Jim
Boulder, CO
Dad to Cole, Luke & Trev

Gents, I may have a large number of points, but very little of it is from idle gossip threads. When I signed on here when the site was new, I had a discussion with Mr. Mike about adding content, and that is what I have done to get points. I did this to drive traffic here, 85% of you are here now since I joined and signed on if I am not mistaken. With a new member almost daily now; as I told JP yesterday, my work is done now and I will not post so often, if at all from now in. There have been calls for help recently and when that happens, there is a core group of guys offering spot-on advice, and that’s a good thing, then others come in as reinforcement.
Sorry if I irritated you people with my previous response, but come on know. I want to have pride in this site just as much as the next Dad. But when there are “off topic” threads on the index page, this casts a haze on our profession that if we got a visit and critique by the media looking for At Home Dad Life they would see it and say OK now, and move on. We just don’t know who is lurking/ed at any given time and there may be things on the index page they (for instance Oprah Winfrey staff) would see and make hasty decisions on after reading and we would get a bad rap, a rap that is unfair to us all because that is not who we are. So maybe Mr. Mike needs to put a category in for idle chitchat about anything and everything that would not post on the main page as new and keep the index page for related Dad topics. This is a resource for dads, new dads or people looking at becoming an At Home Dad so let’s look the part.
If I came here when the site was new and saw this kind of content on the index page I would’ve kept looking for a reliable site, but I didn’t and joined.
I prefer to be outside the box, and no JP, I am not talking the Whopper box. It is my job here to provoke thought, as I have been out there for quite some time now and will continue to do so.
Badges? I don't need no stinking badges… If I had one, it’d be turned in by now and I’d be gone!
Capiche? Okay? All right?


JPhillip checked up on me this afternoon which was a good thing, JP thanks...
Guys, all is well here, I am just a little preoccupied with a project that was starting to smell up the place so I am trying to make progress on it, but it has not stank to the point this site has as of late. I am still here trying to wade through the billions of new posts to figure if anything is worthy of reading, and after reading all the diletto posts and rants that made me realize it is not worth the time and effort.
Can you say 90% meaningless drivel?
Those episode's of this site made me realize we got too much time on our hands so I put this URL on snooze to let the stank drift away and instead opened a project file I've had working for a while.
Those meaningless threads/replies of the last three weeks didn't do our profession any favors in the brief time AHD's were in the bright lights last two weeks. A time when we could've been showing the world what we're all about, but no we had to talk about the diletto and its associated tools among other meaningless things, like BPD's supposed dressing habits.
But carry on gents, don't let my rant stop your babble, slam me if you must but I think you know where I am coming from. I'll still be around but not near as active in discussion.
Try this, how about giving your kids the attention you've been giving this site as of late and nothing but good will happen as a result.
I've even seen Mike S_____ (last name not published out of respect (a superdad of dads)) appearing here and there and frankly I'm surprised he still has any association with us.
Okay I'm done and gone...

This has become a whole new topic.
Just a rare case when both side have good points.
Both the serious and the silly have a place, this is the internet after all. So does spending time with and away from the kids. Just like parenting is an ongoing process, a matter of finding an approximate balance in consideration of everything.
For whatever it's worth here's some suggestions for consideration, feel free to add or refine:
- Have a Private Topic option that only logged in members and private topic subscribers can view. If it's a subject that may be highly sensitive to others or the outside community, an author or moderator can use the function accordingly
- If at all possible add emoticons to the site, they are fun, they help clarify moods of posts, and moods of topics which will help direct interests accordingly
-Reformat the Active Topics list. There's this thing that's following me everywhere, at times blocking my view and in the way when I'm in other areas of the site. It may be convenient but is more overbearing, some of the best topics get overlooked. Why does it need to be shown to all the outside viewers anyway?, it's a forum list. Wouldn't it be easier to just set up 2 links, Active Topics & Most Popular Topics (based on # of posts). Each link would direct to a separate page of the top 25, 30 or whatever topics.
- More info in the Welcome link to the Home page that explains the site in more detail, from serious to silly. Common considerations towards AHD'd, purpose, mission statement, etc.
- Be good boys, share, play and be nice to each other. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, likes and dislikes. We are all in a mostly uncharted profession that often breeds aggravation, irritability and stress on a moment to moment, daily basis, and that's all before the warden even gets home. Everyone's different, if someone posts something you don't agree with or that pisses you off, walk away from it or come back later after colling off if you must. Or ask for clarification. Chances are nobody meant anything by it and was only joking.
- Indicate when you are only joking if there may be any doubts
-Take a break
- Cut some slack
- Add a Dad Pad for daddy timeouts
j/k... well sorta
New Orleans wasn't rebuilt in a day either... hope to keep seeing you around MHD.
I need a nap.

We've been through this entire debate only a few months ago. Let's all get over it and move on. Maybe some of us were on vacation in Mexico or something the last time we painfully picked over this one.
By the way, MileHi, thanks for telling us about your vacation and posting pics of the view from your hotel room. It was great to know someone out there was having a great break and was willing to share that with everyone, regulars and visitors alike. In the past year, you have always been willing to share more with us than just "content" to "drive traffic."
It sounds like you are going through a rough spot, my friend. You even took your pic away and replaced it with an empty desk. Let me know if you need to talk about something besides the "usual" drivel.

I could care less what Oprah or much of the main stream media thinks, most can't get much beyond the cultural sterotypes of this or many other like groups (ie. the spot last week on the Today Show). There are some media though that do a better job than others though and perhaps there's other wothy considerations to be made. The real impact of an impression and representation of what it means to be an AHD takes place in our real lives, what we do with our kids, families and in the larger community.
If there's an issue here though, seems more practical to make whatever simple tweeks and put the issue to rest once and for all. Ultimately that sort of desision is up to the site administrator, what gets posted or not is a choice of each individual.

Hmm. I've been planning on ignoring this whole thread, but I just can't finish washing the damn sippy cups without saying something. Since I joined this site MileHi has been here and has been a invaluable resource for those of us just starting out on this journey. WAAAAYYYY back then (only a little over a year, but it seems like longer) this was a great site for me to check out a couple of times a week, maybe get some info, maybe not. Now this site is something that I check five or six times a day... to the right of my screen I see nothing that I would be ashamed to show my wife, future employer, mother, father, or anyone else who wants to know what my life is like (I believe JP also said something like that above). Yep, staying at home with a kid is a noble cause, but it will drive you crazy, and you will still think about sex, beer, music, TV, comics, photography, movies, sex some more, and coffee.
I guess, all I can say is that I feel kind of sad that for whatever reason this site seems to have alienated a terrific SAHD (MileHi) who has had a lot to share with all of us in the past. I mean, damn, we're all alienated enough already. At the same time, I have to respectfully disagree with his comments above and scratch my head that he seems to feel ashamed to have ever been associated with us (not trying to put words in anyone's mouth, but that's my take on what's happened).
Alright. I don't think I really added more to the discussion but to bump this damn thing back up to the top. But I really needed to get something out. JP is right. This is totally a flashback from two months ago when other great dads seemed to have dropped off for good. I think we're the less for it.

I cant talk to my 2.7 about this stuff and my wife comes home from work and I don't want to unload a data dump on her as soon as she walks in the door. You guys are in the same position as I am and 85% of you can and will come down to my level to play mind games and just act like the men we are.
To MileHiDad, I love you just the way you are, you have enriched my life and have had many great things to say at the right times. I will miss you if you go away even for a short period of time. If you feel this way i respect your decision and say when you are here with us I will value the time I get to spend with you. If you go I wish you only the best and I know that anyone you come in contact with, will feel as I do.
To the rest of my Brothers Post hard and post often............ And you all need to know that JPhillip is the Heart and soul of this web site and I would walk into the fire with him... He has been one of the best reasons to come to this site. To all my other close friend Na nee Na neee booo booo....I love u too
Chef Kev
Please stop biting Daddy's buttocks !!!!!
JPhillip said it, therefor it is, Chef= C=Caring, H=Helpful, E=Excellent, F=Fubar

Gentlemen,
We can't control the feelings of others. We just have to do the best that we can while being true to ourselves.
I really appreciate you guys. Not just your kind words, but you, your thoughts and your feelings. Do what you need to do. Hopefully we'll do it together. But, if not, then just do your best and be true to yourself and your kids.

was it a music post that was posted in January and was only brought back into attention because I asked what the record for posts had been, and what is wrong with new members MHD and what is wrong with blowing off some steam a bit, some are funny, but also, some are important. Where were you on this one http://www.athomedad.org/node/2625 pretty much an on track call for help from an AHD. I do not see any post that is not appropriate here. If you leave you will be missed even if you take a lot of vacations. I may be a bit jealous. I Haven't had any time off in 2 years but my / our (family) problem. Like Jon posted take a look at the new content and tell us the problem. I can not see one anywhere.
good luck to you.

When I joined the site I enjoyed MileHighDad's and JPhillip's responses to be humorous and helpful. MileHigh has the detailed response I look for and spells it out, while JPhillip comments brings you back to earth with a one line comedic response. In other words, I hope you both keep posting.
On topic: I like all the topics, whether trivial or not. I think we need to pick and choose which topic applies to us. What some may consider drivel, others will take to heart or find humorous. Either way its all good...
My understanding of this site was to post whatever and whenever. If we censor, then it misses the point.

My apologies to BPD, I am sorry for singling the responses in threads about you and dressing, I meant no harm as some of them (I got the feeling) were infringing on your personal comfort levels by the tone of some of your replies, again sorry.
The masses have spoken and you said you want the callous subjects, so be it. I just voiced my opposition and it will happen again, not necessarily with me, but it will happen.
I still would like to be a part of the community if you would permit that. I just will not read all the thread posts I feel are unrelated to dad’dom. So if I might repeat something that is already been said in a threaded offshoot side discussion that is why.
Now if you will all excuse me, I have some daddying to do.
Mark this thread as closed.

But I wasn't confused about it. I know you were just pulling an example at random, and that in fact it probably had nothing to do with me in particular. I was never offended by that part of your rant. I didn't take you to be singling me out. That's not what prompted my response.
http://backpackingdad.blogspot.com
As others have said, we've had this debate before. Some of the outcome of that was:
-The chit-chat will stay, since that was clearly what the vast majority of people wanted.
-We will be nice to each other. That's happened, and it's been great. Thanks.
-There are some more official posting guidelines. They're here:
http://www.athomedad.org/node/2288
I will start some threads and polls on some issues related to this thread - my goal is to continue to build on the previous efforts, but not rehash exactly what we did before.
Thanks...
Joined: 2006-11-17
Dad Points: 917