"What do you do?"

PittCaleb
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For the first time in a very long time, I was shy/embarrassed about my "job" and tried to hide it from people...

Yesterday afternoon I got a call from a friend with 4 tix to the Yankees game. Of course I said yes...

Now let me back-track. I know this guy through his wife - I met her at the playground. She's one of the 'few' who "get" it and allowed this wacky stay-at-home-dad to be friends with her and her kids from a purely random meet at the play ground. Her husband also invited 2 other guys to come with (from his work, a local highs school). Let me also say I'm a non-drinker and once we got the Bronx, we headed straight for a bar across from Yankee Stadium.

Once there, it got louder and louder and all 3 guys were drinking... I'm a pretty forward, type A, outgoing person, but I just felt out of my environment. So when they questions started, "How do you know Fred?" and all, I tried to downplay the relationship and what I did.

Somehow this beer-drinking, die-hard Yankee hat wearing, cuss-like-a-sailor group wasn't gonna take the, "I met Fred's wife on the playground and we hang out every other day and play with the kids" too kindly. Heck, they might come down on Fred and then I lose my playdates!

I eased into it and since I was coy, the two new guys talked to me individually throughout the evening where I could better explain myself. I still use my line, "I retired 7 years ago" with a dramatic pause which always causes people to react - "wow, you cash in on the Internet bubble?" (I did to a degree)

All went well in the end, so no worries and it was probably as much my placing guesses at their reactions than them actually reacting to me.

Most interesting from the evening, a YOUNG couple behind us were talking about their boy/girl friends - the man/woman were married, just to other people. The woman said at one point, "yeah, XXX wants to try this whole stay at home dad thing, yada yada yada" - I was going to see if there was a point where I could jump in. But the next sentence was, "I love kids and all, but only want them if I can have a surrogate to bear it and someone else to raise it." It got more superficial after that, so I bailed on having any words with them...

Cheers,
PittCaleb




Albyonfloats
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Since you probably have the personality to pull it off...

You can try any one of the following.

I married well and retired early.
I took a cue from horse racing and put myself out to stud with the right woman.
I retired early and now just can't bring myself to go back to work because I'm having so much fun staying home with the kids.

(With the right crowd you can also try)
I'm gainfully unemployed now that I care who raises my kids.
I'm writing a book about how dad's that work too much raise kids who have a higher rate of teen pregnancy and drug/alcohol abuse. (when they say "REALLY?!?" say..) "Not really, I just stay home with the kids because I want to."
I work on Home Front Security and I'm really not at liberty to discuss my job. (When they ask "Don't you mean HomeLAND Security?" say, "No." and just shake your head like they ought to know better.

And my personal favorite....
I work in the R & D department for a sexual fantasies board game company. (After that, everyone else's job just kinda sucks by comparison.) Plus you can have hours of fun stringing them along about your research materials, your "assistant" etc. When you're bored with playing with them, tell them what you really do and they'll forget it in five seconds and go right back to the "dream job" you just BS-ed them with. They'll think you're a great guy and won't even care what you do after that. Or if they think it's cool, they'll tell you privately. Either way, you're in!

Enjoy!!!

--Alby

Living the dream & making it look difficult.



dbrigham
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funny

Funny stuff, Alby!

Just today I picked up my son from a play date with his new summer camp friend, and the kid's father was home early for the holiday weekend. He asked, "So did you take today off?" No, I said, I'm home full time with the kids. He didn't give me the usual, "Wow, that's great, you're lucky, wish I could do that, blah blah blah," but his response was along the lines of, "When I've got the two kids by myself I'm amazed at how much work it is." So I got some respect, which is pretty common.

Of course, if this guy, who I believe is an investment banker, traded places with me, I wouldn't be too bummed. A $2 million house with 13 rooms, Mercedes and Acura SUVs in the driveway, a nanny, etc. As my wife said, "Our son's got a play date with Richie Rich!"

Dave, full-time child roadie for Owen and Amelia
www.davebrigham.com



daddy x
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The Yankers

I get down to the local pub from time to time to play poker. All the guys there know what I do "for a living", and the general consesus is that it's a way cool job. Very hip. Very cutting edge. Never would have dreamed of the day when changing diapers would be cool...

oh, and go RED SOX!

-daddy x



dbrigham
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Another Sox fan

Always glad to see another Sox fan here! Last night was a great game, which they needed after stinking up the joint in Tampa.

Dave, full-time child roadie for Owen and Amelia
www.davebrigham.com



Electriclime
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Snubbed

I've felt the annoying tingle of the not-intended snub already. My parents were in town to meet their 10 week old granddaughter for the first time last weekend and graciously relieved us for a day so we could get out and do some shopping and have a nice baby-free dinner together. Well, the little peanut needed a diaper change and my dad proclaims that "I'm not changing diapers; that's a woman's work!"

I'm sure a lot of you guys know how that feels. I have been armored against this type of behavior from coworkers and the general public since their opinion doesn't make any difference to me, but I have to say it stung a bit when I heard it from my dad. I'm sure he didn't intend it that way, but it was enough to pop up in my head a few times later in the day and irritate me.

Sorry. Had to share that with people who understand.

Rich C. : Novice baby wrangler and cat herder.
http://one-sahd-dude.blogspot.com/
http://good-eats-fan.blogspot.com/



Bellyman_7
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My father-in-law didn't even

My father-in-law didn't even want to hold the babys until they could talk back.
As for hobbies, during the summer, gardening is the one favorite past time. Alas, the wife has a hunny-do-list going and I am knee deep in projects.



Albyonfloats
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Woman's work

A very wise woman I know once told me that my father cannot give me what he does not have. In my case, understanding. My father is 80 years old to my 41. We grew up in different times. He fought in WWII and I now share my life with fellow at home dads on the WWW. When he was young, men worked and women stayed home and took care of the kids. Heck, my mom did the same until I, the youngest, got my driver's license. So he knows only what he has experienced firsthand.

Just as you and I have our own ideas about what being a good father means to us, so too, do both of our fathers. Just because your father (and mine too) does not understand why you or I would do this or worse yet, admit to liking it, you cannot understand why he isn't proud of you for doing this for your family. He cannot give you understanding he does not possess. Sorry it could not have been different for both of us.

Just know that while he may not brag to his buddies about your "career," chances are he admires the heck out of you and just doesn't know how to say it. My father finally admitted he could never have pulled it off with me and my sister and money had nothing to do with it. He simply did not know how to care for young children. You have done what every father hopes for for his son. You have taken what he gave you and grown beyond his teaching. You should be proud of yourself for that, if nothing else.

The only thing he can do for you is to ask you for your forgiveness for his lack of understanding. Once you accept that that is all he has left to give you, you can forgive him for his self-imposed limitations and get on with the job that is raising your kids. Teach them what it means to be a father and hope that they too will move beyond your teachings and do what is best for their families when the time comes.

You are the man your father could not be and you must be for your children. Stay humble and stay strong. Best of luck. --Alby

Making it look difficult. Living the dream.



Electriclime
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Well said

Well said Alby. As you said, our fathers a product of a different generation, and even more so a product of their parents. It's easy to see the similarities between my father and grandfather; where I branched off is difficult to tell. I don't blame them for the way they are, nor would I expect anything different, but it is nice to be able to relate to other SAHDs who have the same experiences with fathers, family, friends, etc.

Becoming a parent has brought up a lot of emotions from the past, some I never knew I had, and has made me take a long, hard look at how I was raised and what I can do to make it even better for my children. I had a good childhood, for the most part, but there is always something to learn from your past. I'm sure my daughter will look back someday and think how 'old fashioned' I am, but hopefully she will also know how hard I tried to break the mold.

Rich C. : Novice baby wrangler and cat herder.
http://one-sahd-dude.blogspot.com/
http://good-eats-fan.blogspot.com/



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