What was she thinking?

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Okay, I want to start this post by stating that the person about whom I am writing was very sweet and I am sure meant absolutely no harm. However...

About two to three times weekly, I take my 14-month-old son for a morning stroll down to Peet's Coffee. I find Peet's to be much better than Starbucks, but I shall leave that topic for another discussion. Anyway, the stroll is about one mile in each direction, and it gives us some time outside before his morning nap. Generally, I take some fruit and a yogurt for him, and I order a muffin and a dry cap. This morning was no different.

We get to Peet's, I place my order and wait for the dry cap. The coffee shop isn't too busy, so we are fortunate to get a table, one located next to a woman who appears to be in her late 40's or early 50's. We weren't there more than 5 minutes when my son does his usual; he begins making noices in the direction of the woman sitting next to us. It is a funny thing to watch. He succeeds, of course. Now that he has her attention, he offers her a crumb (literally a crumb) of his piece of my muffin. Then he appears to point to her pastry. Without warning, she hands over a piece.

The first thought in my head was, "What the hell are you doing? This is a my baby. Why are you giving my baby a piece of your food? We don't know you at all. You are a stranger." Fortunately, I had my wits about me. I actually said, "No," before my son could take the piece of pastry. I followed with, "he can't have that," for which she replied, "oh, yes the nuts." As it turns out, she was eating a scone that contained walnuts.

Clearly, she had the wherewithal to know that giving nuts to a child was wrong. Perhaps, she was acting impulsively. Perhaps, she assumed that I was eating a muffin with nuts. Perhaps, she was overwhelmed by his good looks and charm. I don't care what she was thinking. There was no excuse, in my opinion, for her temporary lack of judgment. I didn't say anything further about it, but I am glad that I was not pre-occupied by my BlackBerry, or wasn't rummaging through the diaper bag.




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She wasn't...

Simply put, she wasn't thinking at all... And this is only the beginning...know that this happens to at-home Mom's too...people have a weird desire to offer other people kid's crap or age-inappropriate food. Drives me nuts when people offer my kids candy/suckers...hello, can we at least try to arrive at voting age without a mouthful of cavities. OK, how about Jr. High?

- Andy

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Hold On

I would respectfully suggest that you look at the bright side of this exchange. My 2yo has a couple food allergies (eggs, nuts), so I see where you are coming from. But, this woman tried to meet Mike Jr. on his level by playing his game. Sure, she should have asked you first before sharing, but she didn't move to a new seat once you sat down, or silently stare at you letting you know she didn't approve of your choice of public place to take your toddler, or ask you if it was your day off, or...



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Excellent point, Santiago

Excellent point, Santiago



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She's a nice moron.

She's a nice moron.



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How it goes

I'm with Andy on this. And Santiago. I was at the zoo two days ago and a little old lady was literally chasing us down on her walker. I kid you not. She finally caught up with us and wanted to give my kids some popcorn to eat and share with the ducks as well. I don't think popcorn is a bad treat, mind you. I just don't want it from a stranger with a paper bag. (Harmless 99 percent of the time, I know.)

Luckily, there were signs posted EVERYWHERE that said "don't feed the animals except for zoo food." I looked around fearfully and whispered to her: "Those Zoo Cops are everywhere."

Generally though, when I have this situation and in these modern days, I sort of blame myself so that the giver is not completely offended. "I'm sorry, x-x-x is allergic to popcorn/eggs/filet mignon/water/air/etc." They generally don't give it a second thought.

What amazes me, though, is the number of people out there offering candy to my kids when it is almost dinner time! I'm a little more honest with them then.



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Shine a light into ignorance

One year ago, I might have responded to a cute kid offering me a piece of their treat with a piece of my own. (OK, if I'm distracted, I might do it now. Heck, I almost gave my kiddo my eggplant sauteed in peanut oil by accident the other day.)

Now, nine months into fatherhood, I understand kids a bit better, but I imagine there are minefields aplenty out there that I have yet to encounter.

I'd say, educate people who do something like that. Of course, I think you should STILL gripe about them here. Great fodder.

Cheers,
Steve

(This message courtesy of a temporarily distracted baby girl.)

P.S. I caught myself singing the Toys'r'us song to my kid today. ("I don't want to grow up, etc.") Damn.. why am I advertising to my kids? Curse you, earworm. I've decided to invent new lyrics to avoid repeats. So far, it's "a Bosporus Straits" kid, possibly inspired by someone's earlier post on a trip to Turkey.



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Hey wolf...

Your post couldn't be more timely. Just this Saturday, my partner and I took the boy to our favorite breakfast place. We decided to order a dish that contained pesto and mushrooms. We had been given the okay by our ped to try mushrooms, and I figured pesto was rather innocuous, right? It contains basil, cheese, garlic, and olive oil. He has had all those things. As I gave him a mouthful, I thought back to the one time I made homemade pesto...about 20 years ago. It contains pinenuts. What the hell was I thinking? Then, of course, we go to a 1-year-old's birthday party today, and they were serving pasta with a red sauce. Again, innocuous... As the two of us are sharing our rather delicious pasta dish, I discover whole pinenuts.

Well, now I know he is not allergic to pinenuts!



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perhaps

perhaps she thought since you let your child offer her a piece of your muffin, you didn't mind if she offered hers....either way i don't think what she did was bad or even a little wrong....after all it seems like you want your child to interact with others so interacting is both ways.....I personally don't place blame, but if your child had not handed the woman part of a muffin, would the woman have not reciprocated? In my opinion you are trying to have it both ways, you want your child to be cute and out going, but you don't want to allow other to interact with your son....i write this with no offense intended, just a different perspective of a dad that has been at home for 5 years with a 5yo and a 2yo......



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Which reminds me

Gotta try my truffler on pine nuts. Sharing a pesto with her would be great!

Now to dig through the baby books to figure the probability that she'll explode, turn blue, or choke to death on the little buggers.

Cheers,
Steve

(This message courtesy of a temporarily distracted baby girl.)



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Dry cap

Morning all....I agree with smacmartin. Also, for the coffee shop ignorant out there...what is a dry cap?



smacmartin
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thanks for the back up

thanks jandj for the back up, and don't feel bad, i also have no idea what a "dry cap" is......i guess i'm just over the hill since i would rather take my coffee, that i made myself, to the park or the lake or the playground instead of hanging out with rude people in a coffee shop........satire people just a little satire.



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A dry cap is...

a dry cappucino, a shot of espresso with foam.

smacmartin: I didn't take offense to your response, but I wasn't upset that the woman interacted with my child. In fact, I enjoy seeing him interact with people, which usually means it's a two-way street. I was only bothered by the fact that she offered him a piece of food. After all, she is an adult. He is only a baby. There is a difference.



smacmartin
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my last word on subject

mike,
i understand what you were upset about, i just don't understand why...if you don't want people offering your child food, then make sure your child isn't able to offer any to them. I just have a hard time accepting the bashing of a person over an innocent gesture, that from what you described , was a natural reaction for alot of people. if a child offered me a bite of something, with their parent right there, i would not hesitate to offer the child something from what i am eating. i would, however, probably ask the parent first if it was o.k, but i don't feel the need to have to ask...maybe it's because of the area you live compared to where i live, maybe it's how we were brought up, maybe it's an age difference or maybe just because ......but the one and most important thing about your decisions, right or wrong, is you love your child and do what you think is best for their well being...



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ask

I think you have good reason to feel angry but I also think this person didn't know she was doing anything wrong at the time and was acting on impulse. A friend of my wife's recently fed our 8 month old some chili without asking us. Needless to say, it didn't agree with his system. The thing is, she's raised shildren herself and should have known - he's only eight months old! I wish I would have talked to her after I found out - I'm sure she would have understood. It sounds like you handled it well and I don't blame you for feeling angry. I think if it happens again, I would ask the person to please ask you in the future before offering food to your child.



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Torn

I have been reading these comments for awhile. I think you were right to feel "uncomfortable" about the food tradeoff. However, I do agree that many would find this a natural reaction.

We are parents to fend off these "natural reactions" we don't find appropriate for our children. While you are probably right to find her reaction incorrect, remember it is you job to stop the transgression if it is wrong (in your eyes or others). That is the definition of "parent". Define what is right and wrong for your kid, but don't judge what others react to. Simply keep them out of harms way, which is what you did.

Or, you could drink you coffee at home... just kidding. That is no fun anyways.



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TimB and Mr. Dad

Very well put... I was just venting, it's not like I hate the woman or even think ill of her for doing what she did. I understant that what she did was a natural reaction. If I didn't have children, I probably would not know the importance of controlling food intake (for the sake of allergies); I may have done the same thing. Again, I was just thankful that I had the wherewithal to react calmly!



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My only problem with this is...

She knew about the horrible effects of nut allergies! I get that the boy offered her some food and she was only trying to be nice by reciprocating, but as Mike said above, she is the adult and should have exercised better judgement.

I take my daughter to some classes and to the gym or park where there is always someone offering her some sort of snack. The difference here is they are usually age appropriate snacks. The other day I was at the park and some people were having a BBQ, and this woman offers my daughter a chunk of Carne Asada! Nothing fundamentally wrong with that, she was only trying to be nice as there were kids in her group that were eating it. I was only upset that she didn't offer me any, I love that stuff!



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