Laid off dads / unemployed dads

mbieweng
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I am getting a ton of requests from reporters who want to do stories on dads who are recently unemployed and are now at-home dads.    Apparently, there is a perception that this is the hot story of the day and that there are a lot of guys who get laid off and become stay-at-home-dads.

I'm not so sure that this is actually what's happening.   I haven't noticed a particular surge in new traffic here from newly unemployed dads.    In fact, I think I know of only one or two people that maybe fit this profile out of the hundreds on the site.

Is that because this isn't a real trend, because these guys are especially quiet, or something else?

It seems to me that this isn't a real trend and that there are a couple of reasons for this.   First, for every stay at home mom whose husband gets laid off (and she then goes to work), there is probably also a stay at home dad whose wife got laid off (and he then goes to work).   Thus, the particular people who are staying home may change, but the net number of stay at home dads may not change as much as one might initially think.

Another possibility is that when dad gets laid off, many men don't automatically take on the role of being home with the kids.   A lot of men in that position are probably going to go out and look for work, rather than suddenly making a big change to spending all their time in the "domestic" role.    That seems reasonable enough - why wouldn't the person with the established, active career be the likely one to go find another job?   There's also this presumption that mom can simply go out and get a job when needed, and that's probably not true, particularly these days.

So...

Is there anyone out there that is now an at-home dad as a result of being laid off recently?  If so, would you care to share your story?  I'm curious.

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?   Is this circumstance actually happening in any significant numbers or is this just an assumption that is being made for the sake of creating a story?




Enabler2x
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The truth, you cant handle

The truth, you cant handle the truth,,,

 

Well it seems im the only one in this world..Undecided

I just got laid off, Like 1 day after I bought my first house for me and my kids,

  Now im sitting on unemploymentUndecided(not enough) welfare ie food stamps(once again not enough, dont have a partner in my life to hold down the fort,   I got full custody about 2 yrs ago and switched from bringing in the bacon, to full blown stay at home dad,,  Ive got quite the story if someone would listen.   OMG what a culture shock..  

  Going to the park during the day is hilarious, nothing but Moms and couples , I can tell Im the only single fatherTongue out

 



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Media need an angle they can understand

Enabler2x notwithstanding, I think the media is looking for a juicy story. Now I know a lot of at home dads that became at home dads because of losing their job. Most of them stayed with it and are doing great. Also, for most of them, their job sucked anyway and this was a great excuse to do something they were more interested in doing.

I think the media simply is looking for a way to humanize the poopy economy. It's unfortunate that is the case because it in some ways diminishes who most of us are - dedicated dads who CHOSE to be home in order to have a direct, lasting impact upon the lives of our children. Frankly, THAT is the real "juicy" story.

Al

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CK_Lunchbox
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Laid off SAHDs

I think all of what is said is valid here, especially the media humanizing the economy. Here are actually a couple links to stories in the news, and there are more like them.

http://cbs13.com/local/Tough.Economy.Produces.2.969163.html

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/Economy/story?id=7529849&page=1

I'm a laid off SAHD and it happened by accident. My wife and I both were laid off on the same day - two different jobs - what a coincidence (like Enabler2x). I busted my tail trying to find work, but my wife ended up getting a job first. The at-home duties fell to me by default and that was a real change (not always a fun one either). I ended up writing a book about it (Sugar Milk: What to Drink When You Can't Afford Vodka) which is supposed to be out later this summer. In fact a few other laid off dads were trying to get enough guys together in our same boat to write a compilation style book with each dad contributing a chapter. A few weeks later my partner got a job (which good for him). I am still actively seeking work particularly in the Chicago area (if anyone knows of something). I digress, sorry.

I have been contacted about interviews on this topic too - just did one yesterday with the Globe and Mail in Canada. And I've contacted to be one of several SAHD's on a reality TV show.

Still, I think it's difficult to tell if there's a surge or not. Some SAHDs might not even admit to being one, or maybe there are temporarily. Still, I'll have to got back to the media hyping it. Perception is reality. Thanks

 

PS - and Enabler2x, your comment about moms and couples at the park is right on. I've even gotten a few dirty looks after stiking up conversatioins with them and they learn about my sistuation. They always ask, "We aren't you looking for a job?" (nice assumption), or "My husband could never do that. I wouldn't let him."

 

 



mbieweng
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And I've contacted to be one

And I've contacted to be one of several SAHD's on a reality TV show.

 

Not to change the topic (I'd still like to hear more on the original topic), but...what is the show?



CK_Lunchbox
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SAHD Show

They haven't told me, but they are coming to do screen tests sometime in the next month or so. The agent told me in in April that they were still pitching it tt to networks.  As far as I'm concerned it's not happening - I mean, I'm not getting my hopes up, and even if it does, it's not going to Jon & Kate + 8 (or Jon - 9). I already told them that if I get a job, which I'm being pretty agressive about, then we're probably not going to fit their requirements. We need a paycheck more than being on a TV screen. But I'll let you know the title when and if I hear it.



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Their is validity to the

Their is validity to the story true and since I have been home, 3.5 years, there have always been at home dads who stayed home because they had lost a job. The story isn't really new, it's simply more common now, or at least I suppose it is.

In the end the story is man-bashing. Being home with our kids is devotion of the highest order not "women’s work" or a "last resort." Staying home is hard and if some moron thinks his corporate gig was hard but can't handle a play date then the assumption that women are better care takers wins the day again. It takes a certain kind of person male or female, to stay home. Sorry for dad's who had it thrust upon them but we all had to adjust to the job no matter what we were doing before.

Be Seeing You.

Jonathan



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SAHD / Laid Off Dads

New Number 2,

well put. I may have had this trust upon me, I'll take play dates and PTO meetings over corporate politics anyday.

 



Dr.Courtenay
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NBC Looking For These Dads In The Bay Area

I’m grateful to dads like CK, who are out there talking to the media.

Yes, the media are always looking for a juicy, new angles on a story; that’s the nature of the business. Are these recently unemployed dads turned SAHFs the “real” story? No, they’re just part of the story – but, an important part. And each new story about dads at home – with whatever the latest angle is – are a part of a cultural shift and groundswell that’s making it more acceptable for other dads (with yet other circumstances we’ll be hearing about in the news) to become at-home dads.

If there are any at-home dads here the San Francisco Bay Area convinced about the value of talking to the media, let me know. NBC news wants to do a story on the subject. They’re trying to locate dads who have become SAHFs after losing their jobs. If you’re one of them and willing to be interviewed, email or phone me (415-346-6719). (I’ll be talking with them too, as both an at-home dad and researcher.)

Will



Bartman32
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Unemployed stay at home dad

There are those that are stay at home because of unemployement. I was laid off from my job 3 months before my wife had our 1st child. That was 14 months ago and so I became the stay at home dad. Our original plan was for both of us to continue working so neither of us were going to stay at home. Now he's at home 3 days a week and at day care 2 days so that I can continue to look for work and schedule interviews. It's not what we had planned but it certainly is fullfilling nonetheless! What a great opportunity to be with my son through his first year!

As many have mentioned its funny how men are assumed to not be good stay at home parents. My feeling is that there are a TON of resources for mom's, mom's groups etc but not much for dad's! Today society sees the mother as the major care giver. When a baby cries it must need its mommy. Dad's are seen as the enforcer of rules. I believe that this is simply because this is accepted. Society feels that way and so dad hands over the kid to mom. Next thing you know mom knows how to sooth the child better and bonds more with mom and therefore the process becomes self-fulfilling. But I don't think it HAS to be that way! I also don't think that Dad's have nearly enough resources to know what to do or other dad's to talk about their experiences with.

I'm looking forward to being more involved here and for good groups in So Cal.



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Parenting Mag

Ever catch the subtitle to "Parenting Magazine?' Its "What matters most to Moms." I'm pararphrasing but I have always found that obnoxious. Resources abound for woemen and rightly so but a mens group to promot being better fathers or husbands? See you in the funny papers. Men are about 50 years behind women in many regards and accepted at home is just one of them

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Stay at Home Dad is now unemployed

I can certainly see how the media would connect the issue of job loss with an increase of SAHD considering the social norms surrounding fatherhood. I've been at home for the last 4 years and like many here, I chose this lifestyle. It just so happens I've been let go a couple of times during the process, including recently. But that is more a trend of the economy and doesn't explain why most of us even took the first step toward this unique adventure.

For me, I became a stay at home dad with the intent of remaining the primary bread winner and at the same time being more active in the life of my children. The financial aspect has suffered while I learn to make a living online, but there's no doubt that once I get rolling, my family experience will be remarkable.

I'm sure there are others like Enabler2x who have met the unfortune of jobloss, and resources like this site can be provide uplifting support to becoming a successful stay at home dad, especially in the midst of the frustrating experience of finding new work. But I agree with others here that the more inspiring story to new age fatherhood is the desire to want to be a greater influence to our kids so we chose this path rather than stumbled upon it.

Thanks from a dad new to this site. I'm glad I came to play.



MattN
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a little late to the conversation

I'm at home now because of unemployment. Our original plan was for me to take 2 weeks off when our daughter was born, then work half-time until my wife finished maternity leave. Work was slow, so there wasn't any problem with cutting my hours back for a while.  Then, four days after I came back from the initial two weeks off, I was laid off along with about 25% of my coworkers.  That was in April.  My wife went back to work at the beginning of July, and I've been a full-time SAHD since then.

Part of the reason the SAHDs who are home because of layoffs are so quiet, may be because we don't consider ourselves permanent SAHDs.  I know I don't.  I loved my job, and would go back in a heartbeat if I could.  I worked hard to get to where I was, and while I don't regret for a moment all the wonderul time I've gotten to spend with my daughter, this wasn't I chose to do.



Fifty9
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Gentlemen Your Admirable

Eva Marquez

I hope you gentlemen do not mind a womans point of view.  I am a woman who has been married for 27 years

I have no children, but.....but I raised 3 0f my sisters children. This was because her husband got burned over 75% of his body, so she had to work.  I know how difficult it is to raise children, but I think it is the best job ever to have.  Yes secular work is fullfilling when you like what you do.  Taking care of kids should be a job you love not like. These children are a product of the love between you and your wife.  That in itself is a bond unbreakable. Whether you are a stay at home dad by choice or because you found yourself in the unfortunate sweep of the laid off raid, the point is both parents are responsible for the children. Children get a taste of who daddy is, because the norm is not the father staying home.  They probably think its cool that daddy to is capable of taking care of the home.  Like you all were mentioning it might not be ok with you ,that its getiting so much attention or may it is ok the thing is don't take it personal it's just peoples curiosity and  sometimes change is difficult for some. I personally applause you for your effort and keep up the good work. and Good Luck!

 



daddy
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Laid off SAHD

 

When the economy started turning sour we were 4 months pregnant. I was self employed with two companies that were unfortunately closely tied and my partner gave up a health care provider clinic to be a SAHM.  She has started back to work part time and I have gone from big six figure income to zero in two years. Certainly ready for a turn around in the economy.  The stay at home time with my daughter has been a wonderful experience and I look forward to our second child who is on the way. If my businesses rebound I will be able to work them and still have time to be a part time SAHD.



4Runnin99
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Recently laid off

I fit this topic quite well. I had been with my company for just over 3 years and really liked my job. I was part of a 33% company lay off. It was very unexpected because they had been assuring everyone that the rumors of company lay offs were NOT true. My wife had been at her job for roughly 6 months and was doing great. When I was laid off, we removed our only daughter from daycare to save money. Luckily, I was able to collect unemployment. so for the last 6 months, we have been doing fairly well. as of last week, my unemployment ran out and now we are scrambling to find a way to cover all of our bills. It has been very difficult for me to grasp the concept of me being a SAHD. This is not something that I chose to do. but something that I have to do for my family. I absolutely LOVE being able to stay at home with my (now 2) little girls. BUT, the minute that I can find a job pays enough to pay for daycare and be able to put money in savings, I will be back at work. But until then, I am one proud SAHD.



Steve
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Laid off two years ago

I was part of 40 person surprise lay off. The company had a new president and my DM picked me, thank you. No I really me Thank You Bruce, I was with the company for 25 yrs. I was given a great severance package. I was in outside sales the last 5 years and tired of all the pressure.

So I have 2 grown kids and a 4 yr. old at the time. She was our unfit nieces second daughter of three. So my wife has a good JOB with benefits so I took the roll of SAHD. She now goes to school for 6 hours a day. So I found a great home base business. This will in a few years bring my wife home also. 

Being home has helped my wifes stress level. We just live with a little less for now. Reese loves having dad home.



Casey.27
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6 weeks of work left

Hi-

I'm new here, and actually I'm not an at-home dad quite yet, but I will be after the end of this year when my position at work terminates. My wife and I have a 7-week old daughter Cecilia, and currently my wife is on maternity leave. Because she has a pretty good job with good benefits including health insurance, she will be the breadwinner for a while. We'll see how we can adjust financially... I am looking for another position, but I am so specialized that I don't expect anything to appear for a while. And actually I am really looking forward to being at home full time for the forseeable future.

Casey



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Back in the Daddy Saddle

FUNNY THING HAPPENED just after I joined this group, the newest post was from Casey.  I am also a Casey.

I was a fullltime dad from '95 to 2004, made some good friends, attended some Conventions, etc. Hope to reconnect here.

Starting in '04 (daughter was 9 and doing fine) I went into real estate sales. The wife kept working, I built up a top-producing business but still not lucrative...no chance that the wife could quit HER job!

Now we've relocated for the wife's job, I am doing real-estate part-time. Decided to post my thoughts by supporting laid-off dads, set up a website LaidOffDads.com.

 

 



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Trying to find work

I was in mortgage for a few years and miserable.  My wonderful wife encouraged me to leave (the job not her) and do what would make me happy in life so I went back to school and got my masters in elementary education (in 07).  Finding a job sucked and I had to take a position as a teacher's aide.  That winter we found out we were expecting in August. 

I applied at 164 schools that summer with one interview so I became a stay at home dad because we are lucky enough that my wife has a job where I can do that. But as much I love being at home with my daughter, I still feel guilty about not being able to contribute financially so my wife isn't wholly responsible for our household income. Last year I applied at over 300 schools with, again, one interview.  As a male elementary school teacher, I figured I might be a bit more marketable.  With the economy tanking though, teachers not retiring because their retirements are gone, and budget crunches, I've found that getting a starting gig with a masters is much harder than I ever imagined.

I know that being with parents is great for a baby but hopefully next year (when Talia's two) I can finally find something, hopefully full time but at least part time, and Talia can go into daycare so she can see other children on a regular basis and start to learn more social skills.



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